Tuesday 21 May 2013

Difficult to Retire Early in Singapore - If you are A dude.

During the week, I happened upon a forum post on an Early Retirement Extreme site. The topic starter was a Singaporean man who is searching for ways to achieve early retirement in Singapore but has yet to do so. What caught my attention was a reply from someone is Australia who has stayed in Singapore for a period of time.

He said some things which caused me to ponder upon some of my decisions, although i will try not to be wavered in my decision - My life my rules..cant rem which advert was that from. Anyway, he said that its difficult for the male gender to retire EXTREMELY early in Singapore due to several reason. Here they are(taken directly from forum):

  • Patriarchal society. If you are a man - not working is just not the done thing.
  • Very consumer driven. Singapore is wealthy and people live well, dress well and drive nice cars. There is also a distinct lake of 'Bohemia' and weirdness which makes being different frowned upon. This is a country that has laws for everything. You cannot chew gum and if you do not flush the toilet in a public place and caught you are fined.
  • The other issue is this idea / cultural thing that one must look after the sons parents in old age. Lots of pressure on the sons to keep working and prosper.
 How do you feel about the points that he has brought up? I feel that they are extremely valid. I do not really care much about the first and second point as I do not really care what outsiders judge me and I do not really covet what other people have. However, I realized that I have neglected to account for point 3. I have accounted for monthly allowance for when they stop working but have not done so for the later stages of their lives. Costs such as their hospitalization, their insurance or even their holidays.

So far, My plans only include my immediate family consisting of me, my wife and my future children. This once proves that plans are ever changing and we as humans must adapt. I know have to re-strategize to include all these costs which I have missed out. We learn everyday do we not?

Is there anything you have missed out on?

As always, save more, spend less and invest wisely.
P.

16 comments:

  1. Hi RSG

    Actually I don't quite agree that it's difficult to retire early in Singapore. It's all down to good planning planning and planning. Even though cost of living in SG is high, I thought it was affordable for most of the citizens.

    I come from another country where the median income for undergraduate is as low as S$300/month. Housing is in the range of S$200K easily now.

    Having worked in Singapore and live here for the most part of my life, I think it's down to individual honestly speaking. If he/she is having difficulty retiring in SG, then he/she would have trouble retiring almost at any part of the world.

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      Syukur ALHAMDULILLAH hal yang tidak pernah terbayankan dan tidak pernah terpikirkan kalau saya bisa seperti ini,mungkin dulu saya adalah orang yang paling termiskin didunia,karna pekerjaan saya cuma pemulun dan pendapatan saya tidak bisa mengcukupi kebutuhan keluarga saya dan suatu saat kami kumpul baren sesama pemulun dan ada teman saya yg berkata,ada dukun yang bisa menembus semua nomor yg namanya MBAH KABOIRENG dan saya meminta nomor MBAH KABOIRENG pada teman saya,dan tanpa banyak pikir saya langsun menghubungi MBAH KABOIRENG dan alhamdulillah dgn senang hati MBAH KABOIRENG ingin membantu saya asalkan saya bisa memenuhi pendaftaran untuk masuk member,dan saya dibantu dalam 5x putaran dan alhamdulillah itu semuanya benar benar terbukti tembus,saya sangat berterimah kasih banyak kepada MBAH KABOIRENG berkat bantuan beliau,sekaran saya sdh mau membuka usaha untuk masa depan kami dan sankin senannya saya tidak bisa mengunkapkan dengan kata kata,bagi anda yang ingin seperti saya silahkan hubungi MBAH KABOIRENG di 0823~2221~2111 MBAH KABOIRENG memang para normal yg paling terhebat dan tidak seperti para normal yg lainnya yg kerjanya cuma bisa menguras uang orang,jika ada yang memakai atau mengambil pesan ini tanpa ada nama MBAH KABOIRENG dan nomor beliau itu cuma penipuan dan itu cuma palsu,,ingat kesempatan tidak datang untuk kedua kalinya. KLIK TOGEL JITU DISINI

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  2. Not sure how can one comfortably early retire when there are dependents around?

    Probably need huge investment portfolio and passive income.

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    1. Perhaps not a full retirement then, a semi-retirement maybe. Maybe by running a business or maybe some enjoyable stress free part time work. Haha, so many maybes, it's like giving myself uppercuts of doubt. I can only plan so far, still have to take the journey step my step.

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  3. Hi RetireSG,

    This is a topic I blog about often. :)

    Sometimes, we human beings complicate things and we dig holes for ourselves which we find hard to get out of later. ;)

    Let me share one of my favourite quotations:
    "Every man is rich or poor according to the proportion between his desires and his enjoyments." (Samuel Johnson)

    If we have simple needs and few wants in life, we don't need to worry about making more and more money in life. :)

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    1. Hi Ak,

      The quote is so true. Anyway, I agree that we tend to over complicate things, we think of a solution, and then we introduce doubt so we give ourselves another option. And in the end, we end up with too many and that becomes a problem in itself.

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  4. Hi,
    I am 54 and reaching 55 before year end. I spend my early yrs working in MNC and self employed for 18 yrs. i decided to fold up my business 1.5 yrs ago. i drove a cab part time (3 times)a week for less than a yr . I decided to give up driving and retire for good after a collision with a motorist. It is too risky driving a cab in spore road.I do have some savings to last me/my family for a quite long time.
    My son is studying in Sydney and my daughter has started work. My wife is still working.
    My problem is that I do not share with my friends/relatives that I have decided to withdraw from the workforce.
    My perception is that I don't know how people will perceive me when they know that i am no more working.
    Pls share
    Tthanks

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    1. My thoughts on this is that you have already worked so hard for so long. You have provided for your children to the best of your ability and even sent your son to study overseas. If you have enough to last your family a long time, no one has the right to judge you.

      We all only live such a short span of time on earth so why not enjoy a little if you have your finances settled.

      As for the perception of people who really know you and care about you, I'm pretty sure they will congratulate you and be happy for you. The most they would do is poke a little harmless fun at you, like " wah, so shiok, retired already can stay at home shake leg." At least that's what I would do should people I know retire early.

      As for the rest, I feel that its mainly jealousy of not being able to accomplish what you have that causes them to judge you in a negative way.

      In any case, it's your life to live. So embrace the freedom and who cares what everyone else thinks anyway. Wish you and your family all the best.

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  5. Hi RSG
    Thanks for yr comments. I do have the same thoughts as you.
    You have shown lots of maturity for your age. I have finished reading your articles yesterday evening.
    I wish you every success in your endeavors to achieve financial freedom by age 45.
    Cheers

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    1. Thanks for your kind words, I hope that I'll be able to continue writing helpful articles. I do hope that I will be able to achieve it as well, if not..life goes on and we make the best of what we can.=)

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  6. Yes, you will achieve yr dreams by age 45. However just like me when in my forties, your children will still be in school.
    You will be at your prime age. Give yourself another 5-10 yrs (by then, you will be in yr 50's) and yr children wii be in university or graduate.
    You can really smell the roses with your wife as your children will have lives on their own.
    Wish you abundant blessings and good luck
    Cheers

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  7. Ha! I am that guy you wrote about...^^

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    1. What? Such a coincidence.. Singapore is really such a small place. So how is it going for you?

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    2. Just cleared my debt. Starting to save money and learn more about investment. Now working on my blog and hopefully can build some income source online with my profession.

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